Biography Alexander Hera

Part II for reading for 17 minutes published today a cigar portal publishes the second part of the transcript of the evening, the first - here Andrei Fursov, director of the Russian Research Center, historian, social scholars, a bright publicist, sociologist, and author of more scientific works, were visited by a cigar living room. Today, the cigar portal publishes the second part of the evening transcription, the first - here.

Andrei Loskutov: Andrei Ilyich, tell me, of those four positions that you designated as limiters, two of them, based on your words, are dismantled ... Andrei Fursov: everyone is dismantled. AL: Good, but two obviously - education and civil society. Tell me, where does a huge number of various social movements come from? AF: Which, for example? Al: Well, for example, “Party of Pirates”, “The movement of lovers of bald cats” and so on.

Or regarding education - where do these Nobel laureates come from if the education is dismantled? AF: If you take the economy - Nobel laureates in economics in recent years, most of them are ordinary shools. As for the Nobel laureates in natural sciences, I am not special, but I read quite a lot about the fact that it is not so simple there either. But there is another point. The fact is that Western science is designed in an interesting way.

For example, there is modern political science. What does she do? She does not engage in real power. That is, modern political science is largely shown to us by the facade and something that does not exist. The same thing tells us the modern economic theory. She tells us about the market. What is the market, where is the market at the current concentration? AL: What do you say about public movements?

AF: depending on what. About bald cats - very frivolous. But such a social movement as “green” - it is paid by transnational corporations. Pay attention, who went to the Green Movement? Former socialists. And they work according to a very definite program. You want to say that in the West there are serious movements that represent the result of self -organization, except for bald cats?

Al: Well, yes. AF: I would like an example except for bald cats? Al: At least the same Pirate Party?! AF: And is it serious? AL: It doesn’t matter - seriously or not seriously. It is important that there are opportunities for self -organization, while you are talking about dismantling. AF: We also do not prohibit us, organize as much as you like. In the CPSU charter, we recorded a very interesting phrase: the Communist Party of the Soviet Union is a public organization of the highest type and all other organizations exist only if they recognize this role.

You can organize as you like, but you must recognize the rules of the game. If you find me a serious organization in the West that has the result of self -organization and which is not controlled by transnational special services, I will simply be delighted and begin to study such an organization. An interesting detail. At the beginning of the twentieth century, Lenin believed that everything - Kirdyk capitalism, imperialism - the last stage, further socialism.

Kautsky corrected him very well, saying that imperialism is not the last stage, “ultra-imperialism” will come behind it. Kautsky did not have a term. In fact, what came is state-monopoly capitalism, and then transnational corporations came. Al: Globalism? AF: Well, yes. Globalism is what is associated with corporate focus: that part of the capital that is associated with transnational activity, plus officials and special services that are connected with it, in turn.

By the way, in the years, corporate fraud was very clearly declared on the world arena. And then the most serious struggle between corporate fraud and state-monopoly capitalism began. Everything, as is usually the case in the West, ended with a compromise achieved at the turn of the X, which has taken shape in what the Neoliberal Revolution calls, if a neoliberal counter -revolution.

A whole galaxy of figures came, who began to rebuild the world. AL: Well, “melting” or “crumbling” of capitalism occurs, it will be eliminated, and what do they come to? AF: A good question. The fact is that Marxists and liberals recognize only bourgeois and proletarian revolutions, do not recognize any others. After a year in Europe, three uprisings occurred, which were actually an antifudic revolution.

All of them were suppressed, but they broke the feudalism of feudalism. After that, before the lords, the prospect faced that they gradually turn into just wealthy people. What is to turn into rich people and lose status - French lords showed the first 15 years of the 15th century, when the Kaboshen Kabosh - the meat workshop captured the power in Paris, and showed very simply what life without status means.

And by the middle of the 15th century, in Europe, the lords had a simple conclusion - to whom to pass privileges: to love to burghers and wealthy peasants - then it will not be good, or monarchs, they are very cruel, they will put pressure, but you can maintain privileges. Which happened.In the middle of the 15th century, in Europe, the Europeans first called the new monarchy, and the brilliant man Machiavelli came up with a new term, he said that this is not new monarchs, this state is a new thing.

Hobbes in Leviathan recorded the completion of this process in the year. The side result of the struggle for privileges is the genesis of capitalism. What is happening now? Now we live in the scientific era. There are many different centers, and the centers are completely fantastic. For example, Rockefellers sponsor the unique center of transplantology, which operates on our best developments.

Please tell me who remembers when and who made the first transplantation of the heart? Dmitry Kosyrev: Christian Barnard in the year. AF: That's right. But Barnard turned out to be a very honest person. At a press conference, he said that he had a teacher-Russian scientist Demikhov. Demikhov made the first transplant of the heart in the year, but in M ​​all his experiments covered.

Demikhov was a pioneer in this matter. Demikhov died in the year in complete poverty and non -confidence. So, the Rockefellers sponsor the centers of transplantology, the centers of racial hygiene, as well as a lot of other closed projects related, we can say, with an improvement in the human breed. This is to the question of how our future can be. AL: If European lords surrendered all the monarchs, these, modern, to whom they will surrender?

AF: They will hand over to themselves. Al: By the way, about power. Two years ago, Machiavelli “Sovereign” began to re -read and was amazed at the fact that everything was described there - how to come, how to edit, but there was no answer to one question on how to leave power. AF: Well, you want a lot from Machiavelli. It is completely clear that I dismantle capitalism, since capitalism does not meet the requirements that are faced with the modern world.

In general, a lot of things about what will happen after capitalism was formed by the Fabians at the end of the 19th century. Fabian socialism is not equality, it is total social control. There is such a person - Jacques Attie, he is a fan of Marx, this is a completely adequate person, he wrote frankly that he likes in Marx. He wrote the following: Marx formulated the idea of ​​the world government, but he was mistaken in only one thing - in the fact that it will be a proletarian government, it will be a government that will create a bourgeoisie in order to curb market relations.

Pay attention - the main enemy of the proletariat in Marx is industrial capital, Marx never attacked financial capital. You now want to ask me a question about what will happen next, what will be replaced by a capsist? Al: I would like, yes. AF: We look at development trends. If a global disaster does not occur, then it is completely clear that this society, based on ownership of materialized labor, where the main thing is scientific and technical achievements, information-control over information, the psychosphere and rare resources should be established in this society.

But first of all, over the psychosphere of a person. To do this, you need to destroy education, litter the broadcasts of the broadcasts, give the news in this way-one serious, and the next one, for example, in India fell a bus, somewhere else they killed someone else, that is, it is a clip consciousness-this is practically a new society. We are now publishing the books “Games of World Elites” - a series in which ten books have already been published.

The last that we from afar is the “transvolution” Daniel Estulin. There, however, some things must be accepted, some do not accept, but the “transevolution” is a very special thing. This is a cry of the soul. Daniel has three children from different marriages, and he suggests that his greatest fear, that his children may be the last human generation in the West. And he wrote this book, where he showed how the destruction of a person occurs, that is, this is not about creating a fundamentally new society, but about creating a fundamentally new agent of this society, a fundamentally new creature.